Mac and Microsoft
M36Teen
Feb 22, 2004
5:21 PM |
Hey guys!
Is it possible to build a custom OS that will support both Mac and Microsoft software?
Jake |
J_Maxwell
Feb 23, 2004
11:19 AM |
Jake,
Probably your best bet would be to get an Mac emulator that runs on Windows. Google probably has a few.
Joseph |
J_Maxwell
Jun 15, 2004
4:09 PM |
Jake,
Good news! Microsoft has released a new version of Windows (Virtual PC 2004) that allows you to run Mac, linux, and other operating systems with Windows XP.
[HYPERLINK@www.microsoft.com]
Joseph |
Tex
Jun 15, 2004
5:45 PM |
Are you sure Virtual PC can run Linux? I notice the closest thing to a "non-MS" operating system they mention it supporting is OS/2. All the rest are old versions of Dos and/or Windows.
The closest thing I have seen to running Windows, Mac and Linux applications from inside the same operating system is something like a Mac with Linux installed, which can then use the Mac-on-Linux software to run OS X inside Linux. Also, VMWare ( [HYPERLINK@www.vmware.com] ) can run any PC operating system, and it comes in a Linux version which you could also install in Linux on the afore-mentioned Mac. The only problem with both this and Virtual PC, however, is that it seriously slows things down having multiple operating systems fighting for resources at the same time. (And yes, the Mac-on-Linux project requires Linux be running on Mac hardware, as it does not do full hardware emulation, like VMWare does. This means MOL is less of a resource hog than VMWare, as well.)
Jacob |
M36Teen
Jun 15, 2004
5:48 PM |
Joseph,
Cool, thanks for the info!
-Jake |
Will_In_Wi
Jun 16, 2004
10:12 AM |
There is an open source project called bochs that allows you to run any x86 os inside of a virtual pc on any platform including x86. There is also a project that allows you to run macosx inside of a virtual mac on a pc |
J_Maxwell
Jun 16, 2004
11:06 AM |
Hello!
Here is the kBase article that tells you how to do it with VPC: [HYPERLINK@support.microsoft.com] . I didn't read the whole thing, but it appears as if you have to install Windows first, and then the other operating systems. Microsoft also as Virtual PC for Mac, which allows a Mac to read and access MS networks.
Joseph |
Tex
Jun 16, 2004
1:03 PM |
Joseph,
Great! I'm glad to hear Microsoft is developing VirtualPC so that it can run more than just Windows.
Will,
Have you ever tried Bochs? I've heard it looks promising, but that it's still pretty slow and in development. Wine sounds like a good idea too, if they can ever get it off the ground. Then we could run Windows applications in Linux without having to install and run Windows too.
Also do you have a webpage or more information about the Virtual Mac for PCs? The closest I had heard was the Mac-On-Linux project that I mentioned above.
I still think M36Teen had a good idea, too... to have an operating system that can run all the types of binaries without having to install extra operating systems or tons of extra software layers. It sounds like it might have problems with Windows viruses, but it still sounds like an interesting concept.
Thanks,
Jacob |
Will_In_Wi
Jun 16, 2004
6:52 PM |
The project is called PearPC. The website is [HYPERLINK@pearpc.sourceforge.net] I have run bochs. I have run linux, 98 and 95 on it. It is slow. I also have wine. Wine is really neat with the %2 of programs that run on it. Bochs is slow and unstable. There are win4lin, vmware, winex and crossover office to mention a few non-opensource alternitives. Whan someone figures out how to run windows programs in linux flawlessly, that will be a huge jump. For now I will do the best thing. Use programs that are built for linux. |
Tex
Jun 16, 2004
9:17 PM |
Will,
Thanks for the link to PearPC. I'll have to check it out.
I've run Win4lin and VMWare in the past, actually. They're both good, Win4lin is definitely faster, but it doesn't do the full hardware emulation like VMWare does. This means it can only run Windows (and only certain versions at that). I'll admit though, VMWare was version 1.x.something and Win4lin was 3.0.x - just a tad outdated now. :-)
Now I don't usually run anything extra, as I have all the programs in Linux for the things I typically do. Fortunately I'm not addicted to video games like some of my friends. :-)
Jacob |
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